7 hours ago, wkempf wrote
Yes. PCs and DOS both were marketed at the hobbyist, not businesses. Businesses at the time were sold the "big iron", not the "toy" PC. The success of the PC lead to it's eventual use in businesses, but it didn't start out that way.
The hobbyist were messing about with TRS-80's, Apple-ii etc...
The PC was designed by IBM as a scientific and development tool for "big iron" as you put it, and IBM had a very specific market in mind for it when they gave the O/S business to MS... it was most certainly NOT aimed at the hobbyist market.
However, as more general-purpose software was developed for it, IBM started pushing it as a business tool for more mundane tasks, and I recall IBM's "Charlie Chaplin" marketing campaign to sell it to the business market.
Note, please, that I never once mentioned NT, because NT was the first OS by Microsoft that really did target business.
I referred to NT simply because it is emblematic of the "business first" approach of MS, and that didn't just happen overnight.
In fact, if you recall, by 1985 MS was already working with IBM on OS/2 (even before Windows-2.0) and IBM certainly had a business priority, which heavily influenced MS.
DOS and Windows were not about the business market initially. I already covered DOS. Windows was considered even more of a toy, initially. There were a lot of "windowing systems" around at the time, but businesses had no use for them. The only thing the PC was being used for (if it was used at all) was word processing by the secretary and Lotus by the executives, neither of which required a windowing system. It wasn't until Windows 3.5 that the OS started to include features for businesses at all, and I'd still argue that it was mostly a consumer OS.
I will radically disagree with you there. As an IT manager at the time, I clearly recall having to manage both terminal-based apps and the "newer" pc-based apps. By the mid 80's the PC's had started taking over the "front end" and we were implementing Netware to try and manage the problems that was creating with data storage.
I'd argue very much that your definition is flawed with the "have much interest in", and you seem to as well since you follow it up with "something they simply desire", but in any event this is exactly what PCs were in the early days of DOS and Windows.
I think you miss my point. The "consumer" market I was referring to, are the buyers who have absolutely no interest in how their pc works, and for who the power switch is as much as they want to deal with. They will buy a PC like they buy a new TV... based on bling factor and marketing. They just want to be able to plug it in, turn it on, and use it. Apple has targeted this market right from the days of the first Macintosh. Hobbyists and Geeks are an insignificant market compared to this.
How old are you? Were you around in this era?
HA! - Now that is a giggle... don't get me reminiscing about card readers and core memory.