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William Kempf wkempf
  • Tafiti looks cool

    Cyonix wrote:
    You guys have to try the Tree View in full screen mode, very beautiful... not sure how useful it is

    Interesting, any way.  Doesn't seem useful at all, but it is pleasing to the eye.  The ability to drag links and searches to the glass pane is interesting.

  • JLINQ - WTF?!?

    Actually, it looks like you joined this forum just yesterday to comment on this thread.  I'm betting you're the paid shill.

  • JLINQ - WTF?!?

    There were 983 page views.  No gaurantee they were unique.  Much less gaurantee any of those folks went further and actually read the article.  After all, only 11 people so far have voted up or down on the article.

    In the mean time, I commented there and started this thread because I find it, ahem, interesting that IBM is "stealing" the name here.  I resent your implications that I did so because I'm a "paid shill".  Paid by whom, huh?  I've already told you I have no ties to Microsoft or Oracle (what Oracle would care about this subject is beyond me).  I'm also not posting anonymously here.  I've got enough information about myself plastered all over the place for you to figure out pretty much anything you'd care to know about me.  Shilling for any company isn't something I do.  So take your accusations elsewhere.

  • JLINQ - WTF?!?

    How is Microsoft taking a hammering?  I don't see any swings back towards the Java world.  There's a slight swing back towards the JVM for other languages on top of it, such as Groovy and JRuby.  But that's not a trend likely to see a huge amount of traction in the corporate world.  Java purists are unhappy with where the language is going.  The Java answer to Silverlight (sorry, the name is escaping me right now) is not finding any traction.

    On the flip side, .NET is going strong.  WCF is going strong.  Silverlight is garnering positive buzz.  WPF has people interested, but skeptical.  LINQ is revolutionary (and JLINQ doesn't get that).  There's very interesting new technologies being previewed for .NET, such as Acropolis.

    Sorry, I just don't see what you see.

  • JLINQ - WTF?!?

    Nope, I don't work for either company.

  • JLINQ - WTF?!?


    Someone really doesn't get what "language integrated query" means.  I mean, REALLY doesn't get it.  This isn't LINQ.  It's IINQ (prounounced "ink", and stands for IDE integrated query).

  • JLINQ - WTF?!?

    TommyCarlier wrote:
    At least they got the J right.


    Love that quote.  However, this is an Eclipse plugin, so I'm not so sure they did get the J right.  Those using Netbeans may be upset that this JThingy won't work there.  Then again, maybe not.

  • JLINQ - WTF?!?

    I'm not sure the "Java faithful" are worried (though maybe the should be).  I think what happened here is someone decided to code up his own take on an ORM.  With tight integration with an IDE, some of the headaches of traditional ORM implementations can be lessened (not sure they succeeded there, but I can see the attempt being made).  Once created, we have to find a name.  Hey, there's this nifty name over here that we can borrow and get attention using, even though there's basically no relation at all.

    IOW, this was a very bad "marketing strategy" by IBM, and not a general indicator of the Java community at large.

    But wow!  I'm still trying to get my head around the fact that this was called JLINQ.  Such a horrendous mistake.  And the fact that there's 7 up votes and 3 down votes on DZone for this!  And one of those down votes was my own, and another was from "blowdart.signon.com" who I'm guessing is our blowdart, and he probably found this and voted it down because of this post.

    I've found some interesting things on DZone, but there have been enough questionable things on there lately (including a post about an article I wrote for CUJ years ago), that I'm wondering if it's worth continuing to monitor that one.

  • JLINQ - WTF?!?

    How is this keeping confusion to a minimum.  LINQ means integrating queries into the language itself.  JLINQ does not do this.  THAT is confusing at best.

  • JLINQ - WTF?!?


    First, using the name LINQ may be legally safe (I don't know), but it's still shoddy of a company such as IBM to do such a thing.  Second, using such a name certainly makes you expect it to be similar in concept, which this surely is not.  Third, in what way can you construe this to be "language integrated query"?  There's no language integration of queries being done here.  You write actual SQL code and let the IDE translate that into more traditional code.  This makes it not even an interesting take on an ORM, let alone LINQ.

    I found this on DZone: http://www.dzone.com/rsslinks/jlinq.html.  Can't believe it's being voted up there.

    Edit:  Oh, and "objectization"?!?  WTF!