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Immo Landwerth and David Kean - Open sourcing the .NET Framework
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With the recent announcement that the .NET Core is open source, Dan sits down with Immo Landwerth and David Kean to discuss what open sourcing means, how .NET Core will support both Windows and Linux, how Mono fits into the open source efforts, and how community members can contribute to this effort.
- [0:13] Summary of the Connect() announcement
- [1:04] What's the relationship between .NET Core and .NET Framework?
- [3:04] Why open source?
- [7:21] Have we gotten external contributors?
- [8:31] How do we think about contributions?
- [11:06] How do we blend internal review processes with open source?
- [15:13] Are we making Microsoft internal tools available?
- [19:56] We still have a compatibility bar, what's the difference between .NET Core and .NET Framework?
- [22:07] How do we balance agility and maturity?
- [24:35] Whiteboarding .NET Framework vs. .NET Core
- [26:02] Whiteboarding: What's in .NET Core?
- [28:24] Whiteboarding: What's open source today?
- [29:38] Whiteboarding: How do we make .NET Core cross plat?
- [34:19] Whiteboarding: How do portable class libraries work with .NET Core?
- [36:45] How do we work with the Mono community?
- [38:41] How does the Mono project relate to .NET Core?
- [40:58] How can you provide us with feedback?
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The Discussion
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davewill White board rules. That cleared up some fog for me. Thanks.
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terrajobst Thanks. Glad you liked it!
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aL3891 Really hope we'll hear more about .net native soon, especially for non store apps.
We've heard that both asp.net5 and .net native will run .net core, and we're able to write "asp.net 5 console apps" that hanselman said at some point is actually ".net core" console apps. so it's reasonable to infer that console apps could also be compiled with .net native
This is super interesting from an native interop perspective, in perticular for games and as a kind of replacement for managed directx programming. another huge thing would be as a replacement for the microframework. this is also sometihng that's been alluded to but i really hope we can get some hard info on that soon.
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Dev Are they mentioning XNA at any point?
It's a top request at over 20'000k votes:
http://visualstudio.uservoice.com/forums/121579-visual-studio/suggestions/3725445-xna-5 -
robertsundstrom Are you going to have public standups and/or monthly meetings (streamed) once the project is completely open?
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Brian Bird Does your team have a favorite Linux distro?
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Dopamine When can we expect to see the CoreCLR source code on github? I absolutely love this low-level stuff and I am very excited about it.
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terrajobst Are they mentioning XNA at any point?We're currently focused on moving the core platform into open source in order to support ASP.NET 5 as well as .NET Native. We haven't made any plans yet what the next app models might be.
Are you going to have public standups and/or monthly meetings (streamed) once the project is completely open?We probably wouldn't live stream our stand-ups but we do think about making our internal processes and review meetings available.
Does your team have a favorite Linux distro?My answer would be Mac OSX, which clearly shows you much I know about Linux :)
When can we expect to see the CoreCLR source code on github?We don't have a specific date, but we shoot for ~Q1 2015.