Silverlight Firestarter 2010 Keynote with Scott Guthrie

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    zzzz

    Thank you Scott! Great news. People were in turmoil now knowing what to think about the future of this beautiful technology. Thank you for great news!

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    Michael Crump

    Awesome news Scott. Silverlight 5 is awesome!
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    Richard.Hein

    i found a video on  Mozilla drumbeat. in a video someone tell that microsoft make clone application and stole other idea. just like Silverlight come from Adobe Flash. Are this right ?

    LMAO

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    kspriggs

    I am sure all enthusiasts are pleased with the foreshadowed technological changes....BUT... in the voted wish list for SL5 the dominant aspect was more cross-platform cross-device activity from MS.

    Scott's performance made little reference to what MS are actively doing to expand platform/device penetration.  This great technology may be wasted if developers cannot be confident of platform/device spread.

    k

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    zzzz

    Isn't that exactly the reason that they stand on stage full height announcing new release, while you're hiding under this nice drawing behind the corner? Schooldays are over dear, this is business. 

    i found a video on  Mozilla drumbeat. in a video someone tell that microsoft make clone application and stole other idea. just like Silverlight come from Adobe Flash. Are this right ?

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    PavanPareta

    Hi Scott!

    Thanks for sharing this video Cool,
    Great news with silverlight 5, It has excellent feature.

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    NIlesh Patel

    I found that silverlight 5 has great features like dubugging of databinding ,text clearity dynamically  list support,etc.., i am waiting for silverlight 5

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    HCamper

    I love that SilverLight is Growing for In and out of the Browser.

    i found a video on  Mozilla drumbeat. in a video someone tell that microsoft make clone application and stole other idea. just like Silverlight come from Adobe Flash. Are this right ?

    The quotes about Silverlight being a Clone are an indication of stating something before

     checking out simple facts (a Problem with content on "WWW" ).

     If you Google or Bing Silverlight one of the sites is Wikipedia. In the Wikipedia site

    is a history of Silverlight and references. Most important aspect is Silverlight is

    for Mac,Linux,Symbian and Windows systems.

     Silverlight is not a Clone or an Adobe Flash "knock off"..

     The Silverlight engine is combination of several web

    technologies (XML,JS,XAML and HTML). Special note: Silverlight and Developer tools

    for Silverlight are free or very low cost. Example Visual Studio Express 2010, Web Developer Express 2010 are free tools and support Silverlight Development.

    If a person checks on "Moonlight" it is a derivative of "Silverlight".

    The growth of "Moonlight" along side Silverlight has provided users and developers

    innovation and a market to create applications for users.

     Silverlight has opened the door for cross platform use of data and media.

    I hope this dispells a Myth about Silverlight.

    Windows and Linux Can work Together

    Smiley

     

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    Paul

    Silverlight/WPF.  Never made it.  Microsoft should just come to terms with this and push HTML5. End of story.

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    CbrAInK

    Silverlight/WPF.  Never made it.  Microsoft should just come to terms with this and push HTML5. End of story.

    Yeah HTML5 for desktop ... nice ... man go dig yourself some grave

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    Christophe Argento

    I suggest you develop the same UI as the demo show with javascript and HTML5. Let's meet in 10 or 15 years when you're done!

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    Basarat

    Awesome ... can't hardly wait for the Pivot v2 

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    Fernando Urkijo Cereceda

    I can only say "amazing". The current silverlight technology it's just outstanding flash and some html apps.

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    Ben

    I watched the video until the "live video stream" sequence. I was annoyed by the media streaming demo and moved the slider forward. Now I have a message "Media Failure. Try reloading the page or visiting the main site for assistance" and the video stopped.
    I think I'll wait for Silverlight 6.
    RegardsBen

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    Raghav

    I missed it live. But now i will watch it happily :-). Thanks.

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    john

    @Paul:
    HTML 5 has some nice features but when you really look at it from a capibilities perspective it is only as functional as Silverlight 1. It gives you vector graphics, some media controls and alllows you to maniplate it via JavaScript.

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    Steve Wortham

    My 2 favorite features:

    1. Debugging for databinding
    2. Immediate-mode 3D API

    I've always hated dealing with databinding because it's been like fumbling in the dark.  Many times I simply refuse to use binding at all because I don't want to deal with it.  Needless to say, debugging is going to be awesome.

    And then the 3D demo was truly impressive, especially if it was created in one week.  It's going to be a huge leap forward in the visual capabilities of Silverlight.

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    Judy

    @Richard.Hein: obviously you can't speak english - but you've submitted this same gramatically incorrect note more than once - get a life.....

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    HCamper

    @Judy

    I agree the English is bad and is statement is full of mis information. More than get a life more like check spelling and facts.Cool

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    Richard.Hein

    @Richard.Hein: obviously you can't speak english - but you've submitted this same gramatically incorrect note more than once - get a life.....

    You must be talking to anirudha ..., I was just LMAO at anirudha.

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    Mike

    Silverlight has the most elegant workflow/dev environment I've ever used..  I cannot wait for the 5 beta!!  HTML5 CSS3 and Javascript has it's place.. it's just not the Playboy Mansion that Silverlight owns ;)

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    Greg Hollywood

    Great stuff - loved the presentation! Thanks Scott, for putting this on, it was just what I needed to see.
    Greg

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    mVideoP

    Thanks again for providing great tools which scale and support a large development community.  My rather narrow interest is streaming video and in the media break-out session still did not get what I needed.  Most of the tools are targeting the big shops (makes sense from your perspective) but at some point the small guys that used MMS need to be addressed.  We were very happy to use 2003 Media Server and everybody had a player on their desktop.  The small streaming video houses are not worried about proprietary players - We make money by creating a publishing point, cut and past some html into our clients landing page, start shooting and encoding and away we go.  We have been forced to start using Flash based encoders such as uStream Producer, Livestream  or multi-camera VidBlaster.    I am sure you are headed there at some point but how soon.

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    sekharonline

    Great News Scott Eagarly waiting for Silverlight 5 Beta release

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    sekharonline

    One cant compare silverlight with HTML 5 , HTML 5 is ok but Silverlight is for real business.

     

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    Michael

    I watched this streaming on my iPad, it works really well, but I do get some sound dropouts reguarly, maybe a bug in the conversion to iPad? Really impressive anyway.

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    Roy

    I am having issues playing these video's.  I downloaded the high quality recordings.  The keynote stops at about the 20 min mark in both Windows Media Player and Zune Player.  The 1st session also terminated at about the 20 min mark.  Both of them have many video freezes.  I am watching session 3 and it is haveing the same freezes.
    Normally I can watch high quality recording with no problems.
    I am currently downloading the standard quality keynote to see if I can get past 20 minutes.
    Also, I cannot fast forward on any of the high quality recording in any of the players.  Sure wish I could skip past the part I have seen 10 times now.

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    radg

    That IIS media streaming to devices looks really good. I remember working on something similar, it had 2 working names - mono.flv and FLVDelivIIS7. It has been demoed to Microsoft employees in Reading, UK and has been demoed at ReMIX 08 in Brighton. There's a trace here: http://blog.monochrome.co.uk/2008/09/dont-want-to-wait-for-silverlight-3-to-get-your-flv-support/.

    We could never figure out how to transcode live video to devices in real time but transcoding prerecorded media was quite simple. Shame we could not get involved in this project but hey, who knows, maybe we have influenced something? Still have the source somewhere, might have a play with my version again Smiley

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    schmirkeniz​er

    Well, as soon as my corporate web handler lets me view this sort of media, I'll be all over it... looks like a VPN disconnect is in order...

     

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    ante_marcus

    @Paul:do you even know what is Silverlight and WPF ? no you dont.

    the web is diverse. the web is made of javascript + html and other technologies. the web is not a browser. The web is the ability to communicate . the web is not the w3c. standards are good , but standards are what they are , usefull but not always the best.

    in my opinion , HTML5 is a mistake. the W3C should have fixed some issues with their previous standards before thinking about HTML5.

    Now there is a huge problem with silverlight in my opinion. There are too much differences between silverlight and WPF.furthermore XAML is too complicated for a client developper , compared to MXML and Flash. But the solution is not to make Silverlight a subset. the solution would have been better if silverlight was a framework on top WPF, so you can limit yourself to silverlight for rapid web dev or go down to a more complicated level if you want to go further.

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    Dylan Ng

    @CbrAInK: Desktop? What is it? Never heard of it nowadays lol :)

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    CalvinDale

    Scrubbing of on-demand C9 videos (including this one) is horribly slow nowadays.  What's up?  To scrub ahead 40 minutes into this video requires a seemingly very, very long time.

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    srijan55

    Standards are always overshadowed by innovations. Which means if HTML5 has capabilities like Silverlight4 (which is not the case... it is hardly Silverlight-1), the world tends to move beyond and technologies and their adoption go further than standards. The case with silverlight is anyways different... the w3c standards is really sub-standards and no way meet the demands of real immersive web experiences and real-world LOB apps.

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    Diego

    @HCamper: I'm thinking about the moonlight roadmap http://www.mono-project.com/MoonlightRoadmap, they promised Moonlight 3 (Silverlight 3) in 2010 Q3, it's sill in beta, I was waiting the moonlight 4 alpha to 2010 Q3 but I don't see it still. I think the develop cicles of moonlight should be faster, these days we are thinking about silverlight 5, it will take a very long time to see it in production on unix-linux systems.However I think moonlight it's a great effort, I can't wait to see moonlight 4 working

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    vinay agrawal

    Nice presentation Scott, Silverlight 5 is amazing, thoughts are becoming live......

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    عبد الحميد الورفلي

    لدي مشاكل كثيرة في ويندوز7 
    اريد حل

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    osias

    EU SOU DE BRAZIL RONDONIA FANTASTIC PROGRAM

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    mistershe

    ola como estan es un placer saludarlos me gustaria ser parte de esta pagina y conoser amigos

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    gregorio

    la verdad me parece genl muchas gracias

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    Kevin

    Unable to stream live with these videos.  Trying to download even the Medium Quality WMV files eventually leads to same result: a msgbox that reads "<filename>" cannot be saved, because the source file could not be read.  Try again later, or contact the server administrator.
    I've tried multiple browsers and even rebooted my router.  I have no problems downloading or watching other videos.  Any ideas?

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    José Magalhães Pinto

    O que quero é abrir o word,excel e powerPoint.
    Ou instalar gratuitamente.
    quanto ao comentario não percebo porque fala em englês.
    Obrigado
     

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    vilmar

    sem comentarios

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    lafond.​jeannine

    jaimerais bien reevois des messages en francais

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    zoroastro pereira da silva

    Crttamente, que os componentes da Microsolf são os melhores entre todo os componente das rivais, razão mais que demonstrada pelo pronunciar dessa empresas relativamente as similares. E é certo tambem que ninguem deixa de de comprar estes do que aquele.

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    Vinod Dhage

    Really great stuff..Super excited for Silverlight 5

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    jerome clarke

    i find the technology that is now impemented is of great help to persons also that are slightly impaired in vision, keep up your  good work

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    aadelmounir

    thanks

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    duan schnyder  butsuwan

    [quote]
    Dec 03, 2010 at 10:28 AM, HCamper wrote
    @Judy
    I agree the English is bad and is statement is full of mis information. More than get a life more like check spelling and facts.
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    felix crespo

    decidi entrar en esta pagina pues creo me sea de utilidad como decen uds

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    millionken daiou

    Hi.I used to be on  Silverlight (version?)with my computer.Although your indication, I can't install it,because i can't uninstall.How can i do for it? Please point it out available for uninstall Silverlight (version ?),and then i can succeed.

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    Krishna RK

    Awesome Scott.

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    ebi

    thanks very muuh

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    Mr. Stankovic Mihailo

    Thenk you.

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    Vicente Velasco

    Fantastic the tecnology XXI century

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    Miry

    DANKE FüR IRE WORT;TROTZDEM SUCHE ICH NOCH EIN SEVER!

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    Adao Silva



    I would like to see Silverlight Firestarter 2010 Keynote with Scott Guthrie, but Silverlight won't load. Any suggestion? 

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    Microsoft Fan

    In Simple Words its Just Awesome!  ........ Looking forward for the future of Silver Light.

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    marie galpin

    [quote]
    Dec 02, 2010 at 4:46 PM, zzzz wrote
    Thank you Scott! Great news. People were in turmoil now knowing what to think about the future of this beautiful technology. Thank you for great news!
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    43 minutes ago
    bende yüklü yalnız wivdows 12 yükleyemedim
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    marie galpin

    [quote]
    Dec 02, 2010 at 4:46 PM, zzzz wrote
    Thank you Scott! Great news. People were in turmoil now knowing what to think about the future of this beautiful technology. Thank you for great news!
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    43 minutes ago
    bende yüklü yalnız wivdows 12 yükleyemedim
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    John

    When are we going to see an event on WPF 5? 

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    Masuji Korenaga

    Fine

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    Graham Knights

    I'd like to watch it. At over an hour I think I will put aside some time.
     

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    Victor

    [quote]
    Dec 02, 2010 at 4:46 PM, zzzz wrote
    Thank you Scott! Great news. People were in turmoil now knowing what to think about the future of this beautiful technology. Thank you for great news!
    [/quote]

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    walace

    Fantastic the tecnology XXI century EAI.

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    beatris

    realmente estoy descubriendo,esto que es exepcional

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    LUIZ MAURICIO BONVINI

    como consigo acessar um videoi k um amiog me mandou??nao consigo

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    bejan gyongyver

    nagyon jo koszonom

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    gisele

    bonjour je ne comprend rien en anglais comment que je fais pour lire
    Gisele

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    maria cnc silva

    OI QUERO UM AMIGO

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    ABA COULIBALY

    @alligro:@alligro:[quote]
    24 minutes ago
    @zzzz:help! help!help! please! I can't understand what i can do with silverlight. I'm not an informatic expert, I'm a professor and my interest is litterature but I use internet and I've been reading the newspaper "La Repubblica" . It's in this web site that I met silverlight, but I don't now what I could do with it. I have absolutely need to print the nespapaer's articles. Maeby the application could allow doing many other things but to me  enterest specially thie:to print. Can you halp me to resolve this important question? Thanks vary much: alligro
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    suttida433

    @Michael Crump:แปลภาษาอังกฤษเป็นภาษาไทย

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    momo

    @getulio vidal:thank you veri match . may frandes

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    Priya

    Is the demo code available for the PivotViewer session?

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    ektorivan

    Thanks for give the the oportunity to be a member.

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    Domingos Carraschi

    nada a comentar pois ñ entendo nada vcs ñ tem opção do portugues Brasil

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    khalid

    [quote]
    what is Email windowslive or hotmail ?
     
     

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    lena

    @Richard.Hein I'd think thats what the world is about still to have or to have more so you wont be poor or fall in that group THE KEY IS NOT TO GET CAUGHT. 

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    Vuyiswa Maseko

    This is good news. Silverlight is one of the most beautifull things i have ever touched. Thanks , i cant wait for the beta.

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    ele

    I am with the other gentleman, I have this on my computer and don't know what it is or how to use it. I have read all your posts and need assistance on a layman's level to decide if I should activate this or not. And how best to do this. Please help. I learn more about using my computer every day, and am anxious to use it to it's full potential!!
     

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    khaled

    SL5 Suppoert Hardware Like smart Card and fingerprint device

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    Sam

    Ironic how this silverlight stream sucks just like netflix streams.

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    GIS

    Can ERP developer use it for better security

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    Lindsay

    Why are all the links to the video files broken?

    We cannot "Save target as..." or "Save as..." on any of them, on most topics!

    Neither can we simply navigate to them...404 error abound!

    C'mon MS, FIX THIS!

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    Aduragbemi

    Wow this is awesome!!!!!!!!!

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    EngBoon

    ops, both Medium Quality for WMV and MP4 are broken... fix it pls... and thanks you

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    MoVB

    I love the series but for some reason two of the videos have a problem.  While the FireStarter Session1 video was corrected for pixelating, the video is now slightly out of sync with the audio (at least it is now watchable Smiley ).  Also, the keynote speech has the same pixelating issue that the Session 1 video had (I tried downloading it 3 times thinking it might be a problem with the download process) and I am unable to download the Medium Quality wmv for the keynote speech.

    I have a Dell XPS1530 with the Windows 7 64-bit OS.  Would it be possible to fix these please?

     

    Regards,

    MoVB

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    MoVB

    @Paul:Looks like it made it to me.  Oh wait, what is your definition of made it?

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    P Jacobsen

    This links directly from Microsoft's Silverlight future webpage at http://www.microsoft.com/silverlight/future/

    Why is it that your video links are all broken? Are your tech people iPeople who hate Silverlight?

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    capripio

    Awesomeness It's very cool Smiley

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    anuar

    great

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    Mayu

    Linux support please, mono is too far behind.

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    gluon

    @lafond.jeannine:Magnifiiique !!

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    christina

    I just got it but siofar it looks good

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    Fadi

    @Gisele
    C'est evident que ttes les presentations sont en anglais. Tu n'as qu'apprendre l'anglais.

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    Steve

    I can't wait for Silverlight 5, but want to make a suggestion for Silverlight 6. Can you add two more features please: 'Export to iPad/iPhone' and 'Export to Android' options would make Silverlight a true killer app and blow away HTML5.

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    SteveC

    Apparently users didn't watch much of the video. While, from what I saw, it won't stream to Android, it will to iPad/iPod/Windows Phone 7.

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    Suiko

    Silverlight 5 was shown working on the android tablet at mix11. The moonlight team (silverlight on linux team) got it working.

    http://www.ubergizmo.com/2011/04/silverlight-works-on-android/

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