Defrag Tools #142 - Raymond Chen - Old New Thing

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In this on-location special for Defrag Tools, Andrew Richards and Chad Beeder invade Raymond Chen's office. Raymond is a 23yr veteran of Microsoft, who's worked on everything from MS-DOS to the Windows 10 UI.

We talk about his Blog and Book Old New Thing, Security Reports on the wrong side of the Airtight Hatchway, various Microspeak terms including 'North Star' and Bedlam, Code Samples, and lot's of other random stuff.

Blog - Old New Thing
Book - Old New Thing
Bedlam - Larry Osterman's Weblog
Bedlam - The Exchange Team Blog - Me Too!

[00:00] Studio E
[01:45] The "Reference" sign
[02:25] Raymond Chen's history
[04:02] SDK Samples
[12:26] Old New Thing
[20:14] The Book
[21:52] Airtight Hatchway
[25:12] Microspeak
[28:37] Microspeak - North Star
[31:45] Microspeak - Bedlam
[33:38] How do you achieve a daily blog?
[36:14] Responding to blog comments
[38:18] Questions? Email us at



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    Kudos for the courage, guys!    Great interview.

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    Deactivated User

    Myth busted! He is real!

  • User profile image

    That should be "Myth busted"...

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    Insane! Awesome video. I wish I would have a signed copy of Ray's book x33

    (Inb4, I'm the 22222th view =3)

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    Thanks for this episode guys! Somehow I missed Raymond's book before - now it's on my reading list :) Already read first chapters from it and despite book mostly covers Windows 95 times it is still interesting read. Would be cool to have something like that but for more recent stuff, I believe there are more stories to share, and we have some new "old new things" to cover already :)

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