Expert to Expert: Erik Meijer and Jeffrey Snover - Inside PowerShell

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Welcome to another edition of Expert to Expert. Once again the venerable language master Erik Meijer leads the conversation. This time, we're lucky enough to have PowerShell creator and Partner Architect Jeffrey Snover. Jeffrey is really passionate about PowerShell and has worked hard to see that his .NET shell scripting technology ships in Windows 7 (it is on by default in Windows 7 and is used by administration components of the new OS). Erik is a big fan of PowerShell (especially since the code name of PowerShell was "Monad"Smiley) so we figured it would be useful to have Erik dig into the nitty gritty of PowerShell with Jeffrey and determine exactly what PowerShell is, how it's designed (and why), how it's used primarily (and secondarily) and finally how it will evolve. PowerShell is much more than a Windows-based shell scripting language and engine. But what, exactly, does this statement mean? Tune in. This is yet another great conversation between two stalwarts of the programming industry. Enjoy!

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    JohannesH
    First of all, powershell is awesome, and I use it as much as possible, though the three letters "C", "M", & "D" tend to keep hanging around, mostly due to muscle memory.

    .Jeffrey talks about the next CTP (CTP3 I guess) in the video. When will we be able to download CTP3 for Vista? I can't wait to get my hands on it. Smiley
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    hillr

    IIRC Jeffrey said at his PDC session that CTP3 would be available in the December/January timeframe.

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    tuxbear
    <3
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    chasedj

    I totally have a professional crush on Jeffrey Snover.

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    JoshRoss
    Does anyone have a link to the PowerShell SDK, that works?  There is a lot of confusion on forms that deal with this matter.
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    Charles
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    digitalrao
    I remember powershell in beta - thanks for the remind to redownload - I am Microsoft partner do i count to be in the channel 9?
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    tuxbear
    I have two more bug-reports for you:

    1. The powershell window won't resize like a normal window. The stone-aged buffer-aproach is a bug in 2008.
    2. If I pipe some long output to the more function, and want to see the output line by line,, it clutters the output with it's own promt for every line. That would have been a bug 50 years ago Wink

    The best would be if these bugs could be worked around, or that I simply har missed something to make these things work Smiley
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    Charles
    You should post bug reports to the the PowerShell blog for more prompt reply...
    C
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    joechung
    Awesome video!  I would love to see better Visual Studio support (File | New | PowerShell Cmdlet, PowerShell Script Editor with IntelliSense support, etc) for PowerShell.  I asked Rico Mariani for a REPL in Visual Studio, but perhaps all that needs to be done is to create a PowerShell UI in Visual Studio.  Hearing Jeffrey mention a WPF PowerShell module in the next version of Visual Studio was great to hear!
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    bugseymalone
    Is it just me, or does Snover look like the Chuck Norris of IT?
    What a stud!
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    bugseymalone
    I'll second that!
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    vesuvius
    Nah, he is Face in the A-Team. Minus the beard of course!
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    spivonious
    He reminds me of Morgan from the NBC show Chuck.
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    rroman81
    All the Chuck Norris jokes being redone for Jeffrey to reaffirm his supperiority.
    Like,
    Jeffrey Snover counted to infinity, twice.
    When a boogey man goes to sleep, he checks for Jeffrey Snover in the closet.
    Jeffrey Snover does not sleep, he waits.

    Overall, it's an awesome video.  I cannot wait to see that future vision of serializing cmdlets from the remote host into a local host becoming a reality.  That sounds very powerful.
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    bahreex

    This talk never gets old ever and remains as deeply valuable as it is. Then on PS 2.0 and now on PS 5.1, time flies. Jeffery Snover somehow remains the same, bubbling with passion around PS, with the same energy, enthusiasm, and zeal.

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