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swiatecki wrote:Havent seen it yet - but it sounds nice
prencher wrote:
swiatecki wrote:Havent seen it yet - but it sounds nice
I wish people would stop making "lolol first post" type posts.....
blindlizard wrote:wow, ok well I did actually watch it, and am amazed. The one thing I was wondering is can you write stand alone apps in silverlight like you can do in Flash? Something that can run from say the CD drive.
NuTcAsE wrote:Wait a second... wathing the video Scott mentions that the .net framework will be included with silverlight for Mac... and he also mentions LINQ, network stack, etc....
Now is this the same .Net framework we know and love in Windows? or is this some stripped down version? Does this mean we can run .net apps complied for Windows on Mac? or at least compatible versions?
Or am i just making a big deal of this?
Very nice.
One thing I am glad to see is that the Silverlight CLR supports any .NET language. The original WPF/E CLR specs said that only C# and VB.NET would be supported.
Wow, that's a lot of screencasts, should keep me amused for a while
I think it's a great idea to link talks like this to screen casts to expand on some of the topics from the main video without spoiling its spontaneity.
Wow, just watched the whole video, and I can definitely recommend it, this stuff is WAY COOL!
I think you have every right to call this Web 3.0.
Congratulations Scott and your team!
Back at the time when Macromedia was up for sale I was very very disappointed that Microsoft didn't buy it, but now I start to believe that you really can pull this thing off and create a completely new web experience without the need of Flash.
You already had THE BEST platform for server side web development, and now with these amazing client side experience everything "blends" nicely together!
In the video you mention ASP.NET WPF controls.
What is available yet?
For example, will you provide us with a rich full-featured datagrid that can deliver the full power of a windows forms app inside the browser?
I've seen something of WPF and a little of the former WPF/e but I've not worked with it directly yet so I've got a couple of questions (and some of these may be born of ignorance of what the platform is trying to offer);
Don’t you know that Scott Guthrie will cut you? Don’t you ever tell Scott Guthrie to “draw out something” on the whiteboard! Scott will put you in a headlock and make your world turn black! Scott will insert patent cubes up you! You sit there and let Scott talk!
[A]rasx wrote:Don’t you know that Scott Guthrie will cut you? Don’t you ever tell Scott Guthrie to “draw out something” on the whiteboard! Scott will put you in a headlock and make your world turn black! Scott will insert patent cubes up you! You sit there and let Scott talk!
ya kinda sucks but, its better than nothingSven Groot wrote:I have a bit mixed feelings about this. Of course it's fantastic that the CLR goes cross platform and provides this rich interface for client-side web development etc. But do we really need Yet Another .Net Subset?
MS sells an OS for a open platform dummy. Mac is a closed platform which has nothing to do with what the OS supports.
Platform refers to specific computer hardware configuration. Sometimes even an assemblier and hardware confiq but doesn't really have to be releated to the OS running on top. ie linux and windows run on the x86 platform.
Mac uses a closed platform and an open source kernel. I don't see them opening the source for all their code so what's the difference.
Windows runs on an open platform called x86.
It's always seemed strange to me that people think a company that forces you to buy only their hardware on top of only using their OS is somehow less of a monoploly?
It was a gr8 video. I just want to see a glims of what can SilverLite do...So if I can get any site or something which is developed using the SDK It would be again gr8.
Thanks mate and Take care
:)Ruptapas
MGM04 wrote:Beautiful in concept, very nice in execution (1.1 in alpha). I *loved* your Silverlight Airlines demo!
I'll be looking to use it in a production environment when it goes gold.
Flatliner wrote:Question for ScottGu, how much of the MAC version of the CLR is based on the Windows version? Is it exactly the same GAC? I guess the reason I ask is, from a memory and perf perspective are we going to see differences large enough that we should care how we write our code specifically for MAC's?
After being a .NET developer for a few years and also developing in Flash I'm impressed, this has huge potential. Thanks Charles and Scott for the video, that explained a lot.
I've got a question about control development. After playing with Expression Blend and using the new BookViewer control (very neat) there looks to be a huge potential market for Silverlight custom controls, just as there is for .NET user controls, Flash components,
etc.
On first glance, the disadvantage for component developers appears to be the difficulty in protecting IP. XAML and JS are all clear text - great for passing through the firewall, but easy to reverse engineer.
Sure, you've got your code-behind file that's compiled, but the majority of the functionality of many controls will be rendered in XAML, which can be read by all.
Maybe I'm missing something? Takeup of Silverlight will be enhanced by having 3rd parties providing ready made controls, what's Microsoft's plan to support this secondary market?
The Plow
shuff1203 wrote:Since the have a derived version of the .NET runtime running on a MAC, I'm assuming it would be pretty simple for them to release the full .NET runtime for the MAC -- any plans to do so?
Keep up the great work Scott,
How is this different than a Java applet? I'm not a Java expert but isn't this at a high level pretty much the same thing?