HanselMinutes on 9 - #1 -

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  This is a great idea, and I look forward to more stuff along this line.
  
  One suggestion: Call it RoryMinutes or whatever, just modify that branding!  Scott's podcasts are highly individual and so are yours.  And I think the objectives are different as well...
  
  Thanks for the great work.

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  Great video!

  we want more, more, more!!!

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  Quite simply, the best video I have seen for a while on Channel 9!
  Quick, snappy, fun and interesting. I look forward to more in this style.
  Keep hunting down the devs!

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  Awesome! I can't wait for more.

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  This is one blurry video. What happened?
  
  I even cleaned my glasses and monitor twice just to make sure.
  
  As an aside, since you found the "one dev" in that building, are you surprised that she owns a whole lot of features?
  
  "Man, System.Web?! That was YOU?! Awesome. What were you on when you created Viewstate?"
  

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  Great video. Talking to developers is great fun

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  This is the best thing I've seen from Channel 9 in a long time. It's very interesting to see the real people working on this stuff and get an idea of what's on their mind.
  
  One observation: I am a little suprised that developer's at Microsoft aren't more familliar with the larger universe of .NET (i.e., Monorail, Hanselminutes, Scott's book, etc.)
  

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  VERY good video, more would be great.

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  Very enjoyable, and good to meet real people rather than the managers - no reason why the audio of this couldn't get dumped into an MP3 and put into a podcast feed, you would still get nearly all of the detail for an interview like this with no demo etc.
  

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  Very fun video and I love the shorter format. Looking forward to seeing what else you and Scott "Mr. Efficiency" Hanselman turn out.
  
  

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  That was an excellent video. Snappy, interesting material, excellent length for this type of video. Also, Scott and Rory make a great team.
  
  More of this sort of stuff, please!

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  Good video.  BTW -  She did a whole video (good one) about Blinq on C9 not too long ago.

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  Awsome video! More please!

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  waltal wrote:

  This is a great idea, and I look forward to more stuff along this line.

  
  
  Given the comments so far, it's safe to say we'll definitely be doing more of these.
  
  I'm rendering the others right now. Don't know how many there'll be total (some of the stuff can't be released until Mix), but we'll hopefully be able to post enough to make you people happy
  
  

  waltal wrote:

  One suggestion: Call it RoryMinutes or whatever, just modify that branding!  Scott's podcasts are highly individual and so are yours.  And I think the objectives are different as well...

  
  
  The video was pretty much all Scott. I was behind the camera, and I added some comments here and there, but he drove the interviews, and did a fantastic job.
  
  For that reason, I'm keeping the HanselMinutes brand. The guy deserves as much credit and attention as we can give him.
  
  On a slightly different subject, I'm hoping this'll start a trend around here of inviting various personalities to be guest hosts on 9. I like what happened by involving Scott.
  
  I'm a pretty technical guy, but my interest in the videos lies mostly in the human angle. Scott is interested in that, too, but he's much more likely to dive into the subject than I am.
  
  I think of myself as being halfway between a Scoble and a Torre.
  
  Scott is closer to a Torre, but with his own thing going on.
  
  Wow. I'm rambling
  
  Point being, Scott rocks, and I want this series to reflect that.

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  cbilson wrote:

  One observation: I am a little suprised that developer's at Microsoft aren't more familliar with the larger universe of .NET (i.e., Monorail, Hanselminutes, Scott's book, etc.)

  
  
  I used to feel the same way. What I've learned from getting to spend a lot of time walking around the halls here is that most devs are too busy to get that involved.
  
  It's my job to know about what's going on Out There and In Here. It's a dev's job to create the stuff we put on 9.
  
  Looking at it another way, I don't have time to code anymore. I can do little projects on the side, but nothing big, and it's because I spend so much time writing posts/comments/etc..
  
  Something else we forget is that the "community" is actually quite small when measured against the number of devs in the world (MS or otherwise). I meet tons of people who don't know what 9 is, who don't know anything about certain blogs, who don't know what Scoble does (or did when he was here), and so on. They show up, do their jobs, and then go home.
  
  Not too surprising, either, when you think about it. The dev stereotype is someone who lives in a basement, has never seen the sun, and is only passingly familiar with the concept of Other People.
  
  The type of geek who hangs out here is probably someone who is much more social than the geek norm. We're all much more likely to know what's going on.
  
  Just my opinion...

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  What the hell is Monorail?

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  Nice interview.  Scott is great especially for getting into architectural topics and higher level topics, is he going to join Channel9?  Rory and Scott seemed to make a good team so far.
  
  I thought it was too short, but if you put out more short ones, then it'll make up for it.
  
  Cheers,
  
  Richard

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  ZippyV wrote:

  What the hell is Monorail?

  
  
  It's Ruby on Rails for .NET.  Mono is a .NET implementation that is opensourced.  Monorail generates a framework and web pages based on a database, using MVC and ActiveRecord patterns.  Essentially, it's a web application framework generator that can make an entire CRUD-based web app in a few minutes.
  

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  Rory wrote:

  This one is about Polita Paulus, a dev on the ASP.NET team who is responsible for some well known things. We didn't know what to expect, as we were just going door to door, but we stumbled upon the dev who coded the GridView.

  I want an interview with the guy who coded the Repeater

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  Great video!  And, yes, shorter videos are excellent!

  I would love to see the developer who created the XmlDataSource answer Scott's question about namespaces.  Actually, I would love to hear that developer tell Scott that they intend to fix this oversight in the .NET 3.5 version of the XmlDataSource.
  
  Then I can retire my XSL template that strips namespaces off XML documents and forget that bloody hack (my XSLT, not your code -- I like the XmlDataSource) ever existed...

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  Richard.Hein wrote:

  

  ZippyV wrote:What the hell is Monorail?

  
  
  It's Ruby on Rails for .NET.  Mono is a .NET implementation that is opensourced.  Monorail generates a framework and web pages based on a database, using MVC and ActiveRecord patterns.  Essentially, it's a web application framework generator that can make an entire CRUD-based web app in a few minutes.
  

  
  
  I believe Monorail not related to Mono open source. They just put mono in front of it for unknown reason. Not because it is derive from Mono open source or Mono open source derive from Monorail. Logically thinking, there's nothing we can relate between Mono and Monorail.
  

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  Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid back together again!

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  Keep them coming. They are interesting.
  

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  If it is true that MSFT is patenting the software methods used in the .NET framework, I will be very upset.   The thing I enjoy most about programming is that so often after coding applications, working out the problems, writing reuseable code, .... I feel like I have invented something new.  I am under no illusion that what I have created is unique or cant be duplicated.   But I do feel that I own what I have created and I can use it without having to get the permission of someone else who came up with the same idea and was able to obtain a software patent.
  
  Do I have to submit the software that I create to MSFT to find out if I am entitled to use my own code?
   
  Does channel 9 have any independence within MSFT?  How can you be celebrating developers and then turn around and tell them they cant use the code methods they create independent of others?
  
  -Steve Richter
  
  
  

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  DenvilleSteve wrote:

  If it is true that MSFT is patenting the software methods used in the .NET framework, I will be very upset.

  
  
  I don't know why you'd be upset, but it's really up to you how you'd like to react to the news (not really news, actually - like any other corporation, we take out patents on a regular basis and have been doing so for a long time).
  
  

  DenvilleSteve wrote:

  The thing I enjoy most about programming is that so often after coding applications, working out the problems, writing reuseable code, .... I feel like I have invented something new.  I am under no illusion that what I have created is unique or cant be duplicated.   But I do feel that I own what I have created and I can use it without having to get the permission of someone else who came up with the same idea and was able to obtain a software patent.

  
  
  Uh-huh.
  
  How many times have we stopped you from writing code?
  
  

  DenvilleSteve wrote:

  Do I have to submit the software that I create to MSFT to find out if I am entitled to use my own code?

  
  
  I'm not a lawyer. I'm not going to play lawyer.
  
  Just as it's your choice to be upset about the news, my guess is that it's also up to you to make this choice. If you really think we're going to try and bust you, then my recommendation would be to submit your code to the legal department of the company you work for (if you work for yourself, then hand the code over to your own lawyer).
  
  Next, your legal team can contact ours. It'll probably be really expensive to do this, and it'll probably take a really long time, so be prepared for a hit to the wallet and a long unpaid vacation.
  
  I haven't heard of any other individuals submitting their code for review, but if it's what you want, then you can give it a try.
   
  

  DenvilleSteve wrote:

  Does channel 9 have any independence within MSFT?  How can you be celebrating developers and then turn around and tell them they cant use the code methods they create independent of others?

  
  
  Those are great questions. If I should ever find myself in the position of "celebrating developers" and then turning around to "tell them they can't use the code methods they create," I'll let you know what I think.
  
  However, since that hasn't happened yet (not sure how you even got on the subject), I'm afraid I have no further comment. Sorry I couldn't be more help.
  
  This is another case where you should consult your legal representatives.

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  ZippyV wrote:

  What the hell is Monorail?

  
  
  Monorail! Monorail!
  
  Anyway, really good video, snappy, quick and light. Although I'm curious as to how the rest turned out - I got the feeling you might have got a bit lucky with having a really good interviewee. Or it could be that MS's halls are stuffed with interesting intelligent people and they're all awesome.
  
  If the rest are half as good though it'll still be worth it.
  

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  ZippyV wrote:

  What the hell is Monorail?

  
  
  Scott just recently did a show on Monorail. Thats probably why he came up with this .
  
  Anyway, very nice fun video ! Looking forward to seeing the other ones.
  
  

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  It is great to see an interview with someone who created stuff I use every day. It would be great to find others who worked on the other parts we all use all the time.
  

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  Awesome stuff! Great video. Now I finally know who wrote this Objectdatasource + GridView
  
  I hope we get more HanselMinutes!

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  If anyone wants more info on the stuff Polita worked on, there is an earlier Channel 9 video with her in which she talked more about BLINQ.
  
  Find it here: http://channel9.msdn.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=218065#218065
  

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  Rory,
  
  Please accept my apology for posting before seeing the video.  I got the idea that Scott was a "silent partner" (so to speak) from the text.  My bad...
  
  Also, every other "brand" I could think of, including name mashups, just didn't float.  So I violated the principle "if you can't think of something better, just shut up."  I guess I'd better hurry up and sign off!
  
  Walt

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  Best Channel9 video ever.

   

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  Thumbs up on the format, keep the videos short, sweet and to the point. It is difficult to find 30 minutes to an hour to view the videos, but 15 minutes is just right. How about providing split apart versions of your longer videos in approximately 15 minute increments?
  

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  I like this video a lot but for a while there i was convinced that scott was a 'little person' even though i've seen him on his website since i listen to hansleminutes.  Just a weird thought there for a sec
  
  keep them coming!
  

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  Great stuff. Right back to the roots and early days of Channel 9.
  I used to love the videos were they would just wander corridors and speak to people, even the ones where the interviewees looked like rabbits startled in the headlights.
  
  Keep it up and get back to your roots.
  
  Charlie

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  Padme...is that you?

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  staceyw wrote:

  Good video.  BTW -  She did a whole video (good one) about Blinq on C9 not too long ago.

  
  
  Polita Paulus - BLINQ

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  waltal wrote:

  Rory,
  
  Please accept my apology for posting before seeing the video.  I got the idea that Scott was a "silent partner" (so to speak) from the text.  My bad...

  
  
  No harm done - no apology necessary
  
  I just wanted to make sure Scott got the credit he deserves.

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  DarthVista wrote:

  Padme...is that you?

  
  
  That's who she reminded me of! Amazing!

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  Enjoyed this video! As it was only 15mins I watched it before starting work... Good way to start the day?!

  I remember Polita from the Blinq video that Charles did. I remember thinking at the time that she looked just like Natalie Portman (Padme)!
  
  One thing (but not the only) I have always found very interesting about Channel 9 is that it does indeed put a face to the technology that we as developers use everyday. I use the GridView, ObjectDataSource and data binding in general everyday and you can form a picture in your mind that this stuff was developed with a ton of c++ geeks and a grand master plan (okay maybe thats just me who thinks that - I work for a small e-learning solutions company with a handful of developers so I wouldn't know)?! It's refreshing and suprising to see that this stuff is owned and developed by one person (and some collaboration of course). Gives us all hope (or delusions of grandure)?
  
  
  Like Polita alot... an interesting person in her own right but very interesting in that she owns stuff that is so prominent. Scott was really good too (good addition to C9 perhaps?) and obviously it wouldn't be the same without you Rory!
  
  Polita should start blogging in the vein of Scott Gu and Nikhil Kothari me thinks!
  
  Job well done.

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  WOW! IT'S REALLY AMAIZING!
  
  They've a DEVELOPER inside Microsoft!
  I'm impressed. I though there are no developers...
  
  

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  Great video, all I can say is more please!!!
  
  I was so impressed when I first discovered ObjectDataSource its just great!  Being able to easily data binding to objects really makes the world of difference to data binding IMHO.
  
  Id love to learn more about the daily goings on of the devs at Microsoft, hopefully the rest of us may be able to improve the way we work from seeing how others go about theirs.
  
  Duration wise I think this worked well, often with longer videos I have to stop and start and then I forget what I was watching (maybe it’s related to me having a memory like a gold fish!), now what was I saying...
  
  
  Thanks again,
  
  
  Steve.
  
  Q) Dinner burning in the oven when you’re coding?
  
  A) DinnerTimer.com

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  Hello!

  I'm new to channel 9 and this is the second vid. I have watched to date, the other one was a patterns and practices discussion which was also quite good.

  This was amazing - I have been working as a developer for 7 years now, started writing Asp.Net applications for the company I work for in 2003.

  It is great to kind of get to know the people behind all these wonderful frameworks / tools that we use on a daily basis.

  I will most definetely bookmark channel 9 - largely due to these two great vids that I have now watched.

  Keep well!

  Ian from South Africa

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  Oooh I like.  Short and informative.  I really like Scott's general approach to avoid wasting the listener's time on his Hanselminutes podcast.  I think there is some room for improvement for future HMC9 episodes in terms of keeping it short and sweet.  Remember that our time is money too and whatever you can do to be concise, informative and entertaining enough to not put us to sleep will be greatly appreciated. 
  
  I had also noticed and was starting to get reluctant to listen to hour long C9 videos.  I welcome this shorter format.  There are perhaps a few topics worth an hour.  Anytime you get Anders Hejlsberg, Eric Meier and Herb Sutter together I'm willing to carve out a chunk of time to listen to these guys. 

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  hillr wrote:

  Oooh I like.  Short and informative.  I really like Scott's general approach to avoid wasting the listener's time on his Hanselminutes podcast.  I think there is some room for improvement for future HMC9 episodes in terms of keeping it short and sweet.  Remember that our time is money too and whatever you can do to be concise, informative and entertaining enough to not put us to sleep will be greatly appreciated. 
  
  I had also noticed and was starting to get reluctant to listen to hour long C9 videos.  I welcome this shorter format.  There are perhaps a few topics worth an hour.  Anytime you get Anders Hejlsberg, Eric Meier and Herb Sutter together I'm willing to carve out a chunk of time to listen to these guys. 

  
  
  Videos with developers - usually less than 20 minutes
  Videos with PM/marketing - 40+ minutes
  
  Hmmm...
  

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  This video was awesome. I like Scott's style, his to-the-point questions, and his humour. The combination Scott/Rory could really scory, I mean score. And the fact that it's only 15 minutes is great.

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  Judging from the comments, I'd say it's safe to say that this format is a success.
  
  I'd just like to chime in though that this shouldn't mean that all videos should be capped at 15 minutes now. There are some videos, like the Going Deep videos, dat definitely warrant one hour of material. The UAC video, for instance, was amazing.

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  There's more on MonoRail on the "real" Hanselminutes here: http://www.hanselminutes.com/default.aspx?showID=71
  

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  More HanselMinutes!  More real dev interviews!
  
  wow.  i wanna be like her some day.
  

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  This was awesome.  If anything, though, I think the videos should be longer.
  
  I understand Scott's mantra about not wasting people's time, but I don't think that means keep it short...just keep it informative.
  
  Good job guys.
  

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  Is it only me or did anyone else noticed that the guy is talking like he is talking to a child. It sounds like a combination of flirtation and good-for-you-pretty-face attitude.
  
  Are we all guys like this when we see a pretty face? I just feel sorry the gals.
  

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  I think you're reading it to our silly back-and-forth style a little too much. Let's see how my "Good for you pretty-face" style works in future episodes. I'm pretty consistent with folks of all sexes. 
  --
  Scott Hanselman

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  Its been over 10 years since I was inside a large software company, but I think I notice some old familiar syndromes. THe video speaks volumns on what can be done differently at microsoft -- the manager is not aware of what anyone on the outside world is doing with their software. I think it would be great if everyone at microsoft got more industry experience by working at a completely different engineering firm for 3 months of every year. THis would reduce the insularity, open minds to true adherence to industry-wide technical standards, and lead to some fresh ideas.
  
  
  
  
  

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  Video quality looked fine to me.  Bad connection?
  
  
  
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  Hats off for the dev... great work.

  Thanks for the video Scott.

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  @Glucose:
  
  Scott,
  
  I want to publicly apologize to you here, almost 14 years ago you replied to this very gracefully and I was wrong jumping into a conclusion without knowing you.
  
  Emre