Ping 114: Fast Async, Kinect Fusion, IE beats malware, Bing most effective

The Discussion

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  Hi Laura and Paul, I was going to comment on the last episode, but as usual, I ended up following the links to the stories and checking both of your tweets and then eventually I kind of forgot what I was going to say. 

  One thing I was going to comment on was the Perfecting the 3D human face story and how it kinects (yes, I'm using that as a verb) with Kinect Fusion and other things and here today you talk all about it; there were definitely great ideas mentioned.  The possibilities seem endless to me.

  • Virtual interior design
  • Planning renovations
  • Trying on clothes
  • Augmented reality games.  When I was a kid I would have loved a 3D mountain road to toy cars around and imagined racing around in the air with planes and GI Joes and so on.  How awesome would it be to have your imagination projected into your own movie in that way?
  • Communication - modeling of all kinds for communication overall is the killer app for the Kinect.  When making basic 3D movies becomes more and more commonplace it will change communication forever.  Suddenly we will be able to really teach and learn and communicate with 3D interactive movies.  We will also be able to communicate complex ideas with AR models, and it will be used for training of all kinds of skills.  We will build better and better tools to manipulate 3D models, in 3D space via AR.  Any 3D modelling program developer out there must be drooling at the chance to use the Kinect as a modelling tool for the masses.  Art is going to have a huge role to play and become even more important.
  • 3D printers are going to be a huge market and will become as common as a computer because of this.  Everyone will have one in 10 years.  Printing toys and models first, then electronics, then more and more complex electronics including OLEDs, silicone or graphene (from sugar in cookies or any other source of carbon, like garbage) chips and even chips with quantum wells ... see Intel Claytronics (Programmable Matter)
  • Minecraft could actually be used to build an 3D printable computer with mechanical user interfaces and/or analog/digital hybrids once we can print 3D electronics.  This Channel9 video where Brian Beckman mentions the U.S. Navy fire control system - which is an analog computer - made me first think about making 3D interfaces for computers with 3D printers.  I imagine an electronic version of   Now with seeing how people make computers in Minecraft and how we can print Minecraft objects with 3D printers, and how Kinect can be used to model things so easily then I see a big integration possibility with the concepts if not the actual Minecraft, for industrial design.  If you substitute Minecraft fire for a tiny power source and can print OLEDs in 3D, and if it could please be touch sensitive and have a super high resolution and move and change shape ... 
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  • Holodeck.

  "Hot Searches" actually sounds like a good idea.  I think there are indeed way too many people who do not know to search.  They need to be taught.  It's either that or you learn by trial and error and that's not good for something that has become a core life skill.

   

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  The 'Fast Async' link seems to be broken.

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  Speaking of Minecraft, it would be super duper cool if you could go the other direction and auto generate worlds/environments based on input from the kinect.  I would love to put a laptop in my backpack, head mount my kinect and create the world around me in 1x1x1m virtual cubes.  May need to hook it to my wp for position data.  hmm.

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  @dtower: Yes, exactly ... using an amazingly simple (and fun) tool for building 3D models, you could scan KinectFusion models in, manipulate them in Minecraft and print them out.  There are excellent proofs of concept for all the pieces except a few minor details.

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  That 3D Kinect stuff looks pretty smart, can't wait to see what they do with it when they bring it into the games space.

   

  Oh Laura, I know you are Mensa material I was just trying to make Paul feel better as he isn't

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  3 hours ago,IRB wrote

  That 3D Kinect stuff looks pretty smart, can't wait to see what they do with it when they bring it into the games space.

   

  Oh Laura, I know you are Mensa material I was just trying to make Paul feel better as he isn't

   

  Isn't there allready something familliar in the Kinect labs where you can scan items then they become a 3D object which you can play with? However, this is far more interesting ^^

  And Paul is just way too smart to be in Mesna =D

  - Martin

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  9 minutes ago,martinmine wrote

  *snip*

  And Paul is just way too smart to be in Mesna =D

  - Martin

  Now let me quote from last week:

  ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

   

  Wait, did you guys not cover the IE9 malware topic in this episode? I don't remember you talking about it but it's in the show notes/strapline.

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  What about combining the 3D Kinect mapping with Live Maps / Photosynth to sell a property?  Imagine being able to "walk" your potential new home. Or being able to "strip away" the clutter and nick knacks of the current resident, and virtually test to see if your couch will fit. 

   

  A few potential Kinect "money-spinner" here, and by "money-spinners" I mean laughs.

  Kinect Kong -> See how many aeroplanes you can grap.

  Kinect Fireman -> 2 Player mode pump that engine.

  Kinect Gasm -> PG 18+ (A Tweaking and a Stroking )

  Kinect Pole  -> Pole Dancing  

  Kinect Jenga

  Kinect Twister 

  Kinect Dance Off -> The interpretive dance game.

  Example 1Example 2 (Bing "Fast and Loose" interpretive dance)

  Kinect Band -> Drums  

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  3 hours ago,Adam​Speight2008 wrote

  What about combining the 3D Kinect mapping with Live Maps / Photosynth to sell a property?  Imagine being able to "walk" your potential new home. Or being able to "strip away" the clutter and nick knacks of the current resident, and virtually test to see if your couch will fit. 

  I was thinking about the exactly same thing! I have seen Microsoft showing some 3D software on Windows Phone which makes a 3D model of an object which you take images of, which was powered by Photosynth. (And if I'm not wrong, Laura was demonstrating this)

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  Laura, a tip for throwing the 9 guys, keep your elbow under your hand and throw it like a basket ball. you are throwing it with your elbow out which gives a weird trajectory.

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  PAUL GOT PRANKED!!!
  Tricked to dress up as King Kong and paint his face blue!!!

  So funny

  Go check the Channel 9 video out with Dan and Laura called Pranking Softies.

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  You now, what someone needs to do with the KinectFusion is mount a Kinect on the car and drive around town with it and map their city. It's a bummer the depth field on the Kinect isn't very powerful beyond the size of a living room.

  I work as a developer in the civil engineering space and I was trying to get the group that is typically responsible for digital environment recreation to take a look at doing this with a Kinect nearly on the day the OpenNI framework showed up on the internet. The usage of the idea for engineering purposes are completely endless, but the cameras on the Kinect itself is too weak and would need to be improved.

  In a different direction all together would be icing on the cake to investigate the miniaturization of the Kinect depth system for usage on mobile devices (yeah like a cellphone). If that happens I demand to be employed by MS so I can help in some sort.

  So, who's the Kinect Fruit Ninjas out there beside me? I need ninja competition. Btw, does anyone know why Fruit Ninja doesn't have Mangosteen in the game? It's the "Queen of Fruit"!

   

  On the suggested games:

  Kinect Kong

  Kinect-the-dots (hahahaha)

  Kinect-Four

  Kinect-Feather (some sort of weird bird game where the player is a bird). Kinect of a feather, fly together?

   

  Yeah and Windows Phones + XBox 360 in real-time working with each other. Very cool. Either as a controller or what has been leaked already for in-room multiplayer for Kinect games.

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  @xepwn:  I think the Bing maps and Photosynth team are probably already thinking about how to use the Kinect to augment 3D maps.  Also as others have mentioned, using underlying Photosynth technology to map textures to KinectFusion generated models.

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  Laura is right there are a couple of X-BOX live titles that are below 2.99....there are 2 that are FREE

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  45 minutes ago,masukuma wrote

  Laura is right there are a couple of X-BOX live titles that are below 2.99....there are 2 that are FREE

  There are 3 if you are lukcy enough to be stateside. Sukdoku, Minesweeper and Flowerz

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  Yeah, but I KinectFusion is available now to us non-Microsoft employees. I admit the Photosynth stuff is neat and hopefully the Bing maps thing will be available soon. I guess my argument is when (or if)? vs. now. The downside of Photosynth and Bing is that it's not very useful for stuff you'd want to use with CAD.

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  mmm....
  
  you do realize what mensa means in Spanish right....
  check it out
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