This Week on Channel 9: Clint Rutkas stops by, Project Velocity, Live Writer SDK, C9 bytes on IIS 7.0 and F#, and shameless self-promotion

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This Week on Channel 9, Dan and Brian are joined by Clint Rutkas and we discuss:

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    wisemx
    Most excellent. Wink

    So, Dan got to interview Bill Gates?
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    Clint
    That is the rumor on the street.
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    Dan
    I clearly need to have t-shirts made Smiley
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    mtz
    ..just wish to inform you g uys that the download link doesnt work under firefox2, firefox3, konqueror3.59 and opera 9.5 under linux ...basically, the dowload link is dead under linux ..

    i dont personall have anything against windows ..its just annoying to have to reboot to windows just to download c9 videos since silverlight doest work in linux and i can stream c9 videos ..
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    vesuvius
    I reckon RC0 actually makes sense to developers and is correct. The reason why is, when you learn iteration/recursion in 'for' loops, you soo find out that Zero is a number, and as far as the computer is concerened Zero is actually the first number. The same can be said about array indexes where Zero is always the first item in the array.

    Must be some pedant in the SQL Server team.




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    wisemx
    Personally I thought it was rather cleaver of the SQL Team to use RC0, I like it. Wink

    Yeah Dan, get some T-shirts made and pass them out.
    I'll canvas for ya going down I-40 on my Harley, it will look swag for sure. Smiley

    btw, what's Firefox? Some sort of socks?
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    littleguru
    Hmmm... the download links shouldn't have anything to do with Silverlight at all... Are they still not working for you because they should be literally the same in Windows as in Linux and should work in all browsers the same.
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    mtz


    it still doesnt work with all the browsers i have mentioned above .... "comment on the post" also  doesnt work ...i wanted to write this on firefox 2.0.0.14 and the link didnt work ..tried with firefox 3rc3 and the link just looked at me when i clicked it..both under linux ..i am writing this on TE7 on XP ...

    somebody could try to load a linux live cd and see how this site perform on linux browsers ..i have so far seen two links that doesnt work ...there could be others ..

    this being a microsoft site, i guess i should expect somebody saying something negative about trying to access it using a non microsoft browser and os ..just wish to say "its the web, the site should be browser, OS independent" ..

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    Clint
    Try MoonLight for linux silverlight support.  http://www.mono-project.com/Moonlight 

    The download links work for me in FF 2.0 for me.  While under Vista, FF is platform agnostic.  The download link itself just has some javascript to hide a div.  The rest are just standard HREF links. 
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    briankel
    Stupid question... but how do you play a .WMV under Linux? Are there WMV media players? I'll admit it's been a while since I've played with Linux.

    If not, then I'm betting the MP4 would work.
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    mtz


    most linux players can play almost all video and audio formats ..most linux media players uses mplayer, xine or gstreamer as back ends and these backend have either native support for almost all audio/video files or they use win32-codecs package for wma/wmv file format support ...to most linux distros ..all you will need to have is this package and all players will play windows file formats without any issues ...

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    Clint
    I'd imagine VLC media player could do it Brian.
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    briankel
    Great thanks for the education!
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    Human​Compiler
    We do follow the "it's the web" mentallity EXCEPT for Linux.  We have nothing against Linux here on the C9 team we just don't get many viewers from Linux and therefore don't spend much (read: any at the moment) time on it.  Everything "should" work on Linux Firefox the same as it does on Windows Firefox, unless our browser detection code isn't working.  Please go here and paste in what comes up on this page: https://channel9.msdn.com/browserinfo.aspx.  Thanks!
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    mtz

    its working now ..i can see the downloads and i can can post comments on all the browsers i have mentioned ..

    each browser gives the following with that link ..

    firefox 2.0.0.14:

    Request.Browser

    • .Type: Firefox2.0.0.14
    • .Platform: UNIX
    • .Version: 2.0.0.14
    • .Browser: Firefox
    • .Crawler: False
    • .EcmaScriptVersion: 1.4
    • .IsMobileDevice: False
    • .MobileDeviceManufacturer: Unknown
    • .MobileDeviceModel: Unknown
    • .Beta: False
    • Request.UserAgent:
      Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.14) Gecko/20080404 Firefox/2.0.0.14
    firefox 3 final

    Request.Browser

    • .Type: Firefox3.0
    • .Platform: UNIX
    • .Version: 3.0
    • .Browser: Firefox
    • .Crawler: False
    • .EcmaScriptVersion: 1.4
    • .IsMobileDevice: False
    • .MobileDeviceManufacturer: Unknown
    • .MobileDeviceModel: Unknown
    • .Beta: False
    • Request.UserAgent:
      Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9) Gecko/2008052912 Firefox/3.0
    opera 9.50
    Request.Browser
    .Type: Opera9
    .Platform: UNIX
    .Version: 9.50
    .Browser: Opera
    .Crawler: False
    .EcmaScriptVersion: 1.4
    .IsMobileDevice: False
    .MobileDeviceManufacturer: Unknown
    .MobileDeviceModel: Unknown
    .Beta: False
    Request.UserAgent:
    Opera/9.50 (X11; Linux i686; U; en)

    konqueror 3.5.9

    Request.Browser
    .Type: desktop
    .Platform: Unknown
    .Version: 5.0
    .Browser: Mozilla
    .Crawler: False
    .EcmaScriptVersion: 1.5
    .IsMobileDevice: False
    .MobileDeviceManufacturer: Unknown
    .MobileDeviceModel: Unknown
    .Beta: False
    Request.UserAgent:
    Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Konqueror/3.5; Linux) KHTML/3.5.9 (like Gecko)




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    Human​Compiler
    Thanks for the info and I'm glad it's working for you.  I thought it should, but that some of the browser info might not be correct on our end so it was forcing it not to use javascript.  Glad that's not the case and everything's working for you.

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