WEBVTT 00:00:00.470 --> 00:00:03.130 Alright, I'm very excited to be here with David Gedye today. 00:00:03.180 --> 00:00:08.540 We are in the Photosynth Teams space here in Bellevue. You have 00:00:08.590 --> 00:00:10.710 an announcement today. Tell us a little bit about what you're 00:00:10.760 --> 00:00:11.990 going to talk about today. 00:00:12.590 --> 00:00:16.230 >> Well, today we're launching the new Photosynth Technology. 00:00:16.560 --> 00:00:20.450 Photosynths been around for quite a while about five years. 00:00:21.260 --> 00:00:25.170 We launched an amazing 3-D experience originally, which got a 00:00:25.220 --> 00:00:29.850 lot of attention, make constructing a 3-D environment from your photographs. 00:00:30.480 --> 00:00:34.550 We've had a lot of success with full 360 panoramas after that. 00:00:35.240 --> 00:00:38.980 But today we're kind of going back to our roots. Saying can 00:00:39.030 --> 00:00:43.810 we make a delicious smooth experience that anybody can shoot, 00:00:43.860 --> 00:00:46.890 and you can end up with a beautiful 3-D experience that you can 00:00:46.940 --> 00:00:47.680 share on the web? 00:00:48.520 --> 00:00:51.030 >> What are the notable things that people would notice that's 00:00:51.080 --> 00:00:54.060 different from Photosynth 2, from what we were doing before? 00:00:54.530 --> 00:00:57.380 >> Why don't I just show you? I'll give you a demo and I'll show 00:00:57.430 --> 00:00:58.570 you, because it really is. 00:00:58.620 --> 00:00:59.460 >> That sounds great. 00:00:59.510 --> 00:01:02.880 >> By the way I'm demoing here on one of the Microsoft PPI devices 00:01:02.930 --> 00:01:08.260 which if you got any need to present with Touch, they're beautiful devices. 00:01:08.310 --> 00:01:09.000 >> Yeah. 00:01:09.050 --> 00:01:12.160 >> Let me show you. This is a new Photosynth website, the preview 00:01:12.210 --> 00:01:18.170 website that we're launching today. This is some of the content 00:01:18.220 --> 00:01:23.130 that we're launching with, lovely Touch interface on our, you 00:01:23.180 --> 00:01:24.990 know on our Hero content here. 00:01:26.310 --> 00:01:31.170 Let me just jump into one of them here. This is the Elgin Marble 00:01:31.710 --> 00:01:38.280 Sculptures in the British Museum. You notice first of all, notice 00:01:38.330 --> 00:01:39.150 the smoothness. 00:01:40.030 --> 00:01:43.910 Notice the fact that I'm just touching. I'm moving along. 00:01:44.720 --> 00:01:47.730 The shape is pretty simple, right. I'm just moving sideways 00:01:47.780 --> 00:01:51.510 along something. This is one of the shapes that Photosynth 2, 00:01:51.560 --> 00:01:53.220 the new Photosynth supports. 00:01:53.740 --> 00:01:57.650 But like always, with Photosynth, it's not just the photos, it's 00:01:57.700 --> 00:02:03.810 every pixel. If I just spread I get every pixel that was shot here. 00:02:04.390 --> 00:02:08.290 Pull it back; examine any part of this scene, 00:02:09.840 --> 00:02:11.460 every pixel, okay. 00:02:12.180 --> 00:02:18.160 By the way this uses Web GL, which is the great graphic standard 00:02:18.210 --> 00:02:22.930 that is now in IE11 and is in the other browsers as well, the 00:02:22.980 --> 00:02:26.370 other main browser as well. But this is the smoothness and beauty 00:02:26.420 --> 00:02:32.650 of the new Photosynth. Let me show you some of the other shapes 00:02:32.700 --> 00:02:36.320 that we support. That one is what we call a wall because you 00:02:36.370 --> 00:02:40.500 are moving sideways along a scene. 00:02:41.140 --> 00:02:44.840 The other way we all move through a scene of course is forwards. 00:02:45.460 --> 00:02:51.430 This is, those of you who have ever been to Seattle know that 00:02:51.480 --> 00:02:56.020 our houseboats are kind of the iconic things here. This is what 00:02:56.070 --> 00:03:01.450 we call a walk through the alley between houseboats here. 00:03:01.500 --> 00:03:05.390 Of course I just stroke like this; see that boat move? See that 00:03:05.440 --> 00:03:10.360 sailboat move in its slip as I walk past it? Note just how incredibly 00:03:10.410 --> 00:03:13.970 tactile this experience is? The photographer luckily didn't fall 00:03:14.020 --> 00:03:17.370 into the water there. She went up around here. She went here. 00:03:17.420 --> 00:03:20.710 Here is the Aurora Bridge, I think we're going; unfortunately 00:03:20.760 --> 00:03:21.820 we didn't go any farther than that. 00:03:21.870 --> 00:03:24.710 >> Yeah and what are the intervals that you're taking pictures there? 00:03:24.760 --> 00:03:26.390 What the distance between pictures? 00:03:26.440 --> 00:03:30.260 >> Well, this one is particularly good; you see almost no 3D artifacts 00:03:30.310 --> 00:03:34.810 at all, really the more densely you shoot, the less artifacts 00:03:34.860 --> 00:03:39.610 you get. In this case, in any tight place like, like indoors 00:03:39.660 --> 00:03:44.080 or in a tight outdoor spot we recommend taking a shot every step. 00:03:44.130 --> 00:03:44.680 >> Okay. 00:03:44.730 --> 00:03:47.730 >> It's pretty simple and you don't have to, you don't have to 00:03:47.780 --> 00:03:52.650 use a tripod. We have a smooth, we smooth the path and so what 00:03:52.700 --> 00:03:54.730 Ann did here is; she took a shot every step. 00:03:56.510 --> 00:04:01.700 You know and we swing around here and she just kept doing it there. 00:04:01.750 --> 00:04:04.070 If you're in a, you know if you're outdoors in the desert or 00:04:04.120 --> 00:04:07.660 something like that. Where the scenery doesn't change much step 00:04:07.710 --> 00:04:11.860 to step, sure take one every five steps or something like that. 00:04:11.910 --> 00:04:16.460 If you're inside a, you know if you're inside a tight twisty 00:04:16.510 --> 00:04:20.160 passage inside a Banyan tree in Hawaii, like one of our developers 00:04:20.210 --> 00:04:23.360 was recently. You may want to take a shot every few inches if 00:04:23.410 --> 00:04:24.760 it's a thing like that. 00:04:24.810 --> 00:04:25.400 >> Yeah. 00:04:25.450 --> 00:04:29.300 >> You know as with all these things shoot more, cut later if 00:04:29.350 --> 00:04:29.970 you need to. 00:04:30.020 --> 00:04:30.910 >> Okay. 00:04:30.960 --> 00:04:31.810 >> This is a walk. 00:04:32.660 --> 00:04:36.240 We've talked about walls, sideways, and walks up and down. 00:04:37.580 --> 00:04:41.110 One of the other really cool shapes we have. 00:04:42.630 --> 00:04:44.820 Let me just get a different one here, 00:04:47.280 --> 00:04:53.130 is a spin where you're moving around some central object or a 00:04:53.180 --> 00:04:54.150 central open space. 00:04:54.200 --> 00:05:02.090 This is a real estate scenario. But this is the way when we go 00:05:02.140 --> 00:05:05.740 and look at a room from all sides, we don't generally stand in 00:05:05.790 --> 00:05:08.460 the middle of a room and turn around like this, as you would 00:05:08.510 --> 00:05:11.140 have to do in a, with a Stitch Panorama. 00:05:11.820 --> 00:05:14.580 We stand on the edge and look at the room. Then we move around 00:05:14.630 --> 00:05:17.940 and stand on this edge. This is what the photographer did here. 00:05:18.580 --> 00:05:22.110 Of course it's fully interactive. You can spin around. 00:05:22.710 --> 00:05:26.030 It's like you know from the, you know you're a video and a movie guy. 00:05:26.700 --> 00:05:30.280 This is kind of a tracky shot or a dolly shot from the movies. 00:05:30.330 --> 00:05:31.970 >> Yeah, I was thinking Blade Runner but okay. 00:05:32.020 --> 00:05:34.230 >> Yeah, exactly, exactly. 00:05:34.910 --> 00:05:41.930 Again, no tripods standing, you see as I'm moving the path is smooth. 00:05:41.980 --> 00:05:47.740 But when I pull up my finger we, well we, yeah we move to the 00:05:47.790 --> 00:05:49.450 exact position of the camera. 00:05:49.500 --> 00:05:50.220 >> Okay. 00:05:50.270 --> 00:05:52.970 >> We calculate and one of the magic of Photosynth is that not 00:05:53.020 --> 00:05:56.710 only do we align the photos together. We calculate where all 00:05:56.760 --> 00:06:00.490 the cameras were, or where the camera was at all the different 00:06:00.540 --> 00:06:05.190 shutter locations, so that we know that path. We can make that 00:06:05.240 --> 00:06:10.170 smooth, you know we can render them through that path as we move. 00:06:10.220 --> 00:06:12.320 That's what makes this so smooth. 00:06:12.370 --> 00:06:14.490 >> One of the things I've always loved about Photosynth is the 00:06:14.540 --> 00:06:17.380 ability to zoom in. Do you still have that ability here? 00:06:17.430 --> 00:06:20.480 >> Totally, totally, you know. 00:06:20.530 --> 00:06:21.250 >> Very nice. 00:06:21.300 --> 00:06:24.310 >> This one I think was a little, I'm afraid might be a little noisy. 00:06:24.840 --> 00:06:26.820 Let's look at that one there you know that you do. 00:06:29.370 --> 00:06:33.240 Absolutely you know as with Photosynth originally we just bring 00:06:33.290 --> 00:06:37.940 those high resolution pixels in when you need them. That over 00:06:37.990 --> 00:06:41.750 any kind of low and medium broadband there's a great experience here. 00:06:41.800 --> 00:06:43.400 >> You don't get sent anything you don't need. 00:06:43.450 --> 00:06:48.060 >> Exactly, so we've talked about walls. We've talked about walks. 00:06:48.110 --> 00:06:51.420 This is what we call a spin. On offering you know if you have 00:06:51.470 --> 00:06:55.450 a sculpture or you have a building, or whatever spins are fantastic. 00:06:57.500 --> 00:07:00.900 But the other one of course is the opposite of a spin is where 00:07:00.950 --> 00:07:03.280 you're looking out. It's really panoramic and you're looking 00:07:03.330 --> 00:07:04.680 outwards not inwards. 00:07:06.840 --> 00:07:10.930 The new Photosynth also supports panoramas. But we support it 00:07:10.980 --> 00:07:15.230 in a slightly different way than the Stitched Panorama that we 00:07:15.280 --> 00:07:19.850 were one of the first companies to offer in our mobile app. 00:07:20.850 --> 00:07:25.100 If you look at this carefully you see parallax here. You see 00:07:25.150 --> 00:07:28.230 the foreground moving in front of the background. 00:07:29.150 --> 00:07:32.810 If you think about what that must mean. It must mean this wasn't 00:07:32.860 --> 00:07:37.830 shot in one position going like this the way we encourage people 00:07:37.880 --> 00:07:39.310 to Stitch Panoramas. 00:07:39.360 --> 00:07:39.780 >> Yeah. 00:07:39.830 --> 00:07:42.050 >> This is actually shot at arm's length. 00:07:42.100 --> 00:07:42.400 >> Yeah. 00:07:42.450 --> 00:07:44.060 >> The way most people actually do. 00:07:44.060 --> 00:07:44.560 [Laughter] 00:07:44.710 --> 00:07:49.450 You know so we've actually taken a behavior that everybody does. 00:07:49.500 --> 00:07:52.670 Because you always want to look at your screen, unless you know 00:07:52.720 --> 00:07:55.790 you look at your screen and move around like this. That's actually 00:07:55.840 --> 00:07:59.940 introducing parallax. In cases like this where some things are 00:07:59.990 --> 00:08:01.080 very close to you. 00:08:01.930 --> 00:08:03.730 That parallax adds... 00:08:03.780 --> 00:08:04.270 >> It's depth. 00:08:04.320 --> 00:08:07.870 >> You know it's almost if we've got a 3-D screen here, you know. 00:08:09.430 --> 00:08:09.990 >> Yeah. 00:08:10.040 --> 00:08:14.620 >> This is a new kind of panorama. It's a parallax panorama. 00:08:15.070 --> 00:08:17.210 The new Photosynth supports that as well. 00:08:18.110 --> 00:08:20.760 >> You talked a little bit about Web GLs. Has anything changed 00:08:20.810 --> 00:08:23.720 with how it processes the Photosynths? 00:08:23.770 --> 00:08:27.700 >> Yeah, when we first launched Photosynth 00:08:29.370 --> 00:08:32.970 we, you downloaded a client application. 00:08:33.710 --> 00:08:37.560 You ran our computer vision code on your own desktop or laptop. 00:08:38.310 --> 00:08:39.800 Then you uploaded the results. 00:08:40.430 --> 00:08:44.470 The big, the other big difference here is that all the compute 00:08:44.520 --> 00:08:47.290 that calculates and analyzes these photos. That generates the 00:08:47.340 --> 00:08:50.320 path that makes the pyramids of resolutions. 00:08:50.910 --> 00:08:55.100 All that happens in the server, it happens in Azure and it happens, 00:08:55.150 --> 00:08:58.820 so you can upload indeed through a regular web browser. 00:08:59.620 --> 00:09:01.500 You can upload your set of photos. 00:09:01.550 --> 00:09:03.460 >> I can use a low end computer now. 00:09:03.510 --> 00:09:07.250 >> You can use a low end computer. You can, exactly, anything 00:09:07.300 --> 00:09:12.940 that's got a modern, a recent browser on it can handle our uploads. 00:09:13.220 --> 00:09:16.960 You should upload as high a resolution as you can wait for. 00:09:17.010 --> 00:09:17.800 >> It'll use all the pixels? 00:09:17.850 --> 00:09:21.390 >> It'll use all the pixels. You know when moving it only uses 00:09:22.570 --> 00:09:26.590 maybe a mega pixel or so here. But when you stop and I know you 00:09:26.640 --> 00:09:30.490 probably can't tell yet. But the resolution just popped like that. 00:09:30.540 --> 00:09:32.560 Of course if we go here we get more. 00:09:32.610 --> 00:09:33.110 >> Nice. 00:09:33.660 --> 00:09:39.260 >> Yeah we use Azure really significantly. In fact if you're 00:09:39.310 --> 00:09:42.550 watching this you know on launch day or immediately after. 00:09:43.790 --> 00:09:44.400 We are 00:09:45.690 --> 00:09:49.930 letting people upload, basically we're asking people to sign 00:09:49.980 --> 00:09:52.680 up to be part of the, to be able to process Synth so that we 00:09:52.730 --> 00:09:57.620 don't get you know 50,000 people uploading hundreds of thousands 00:09:57.670 --> 00:09:59.750 of things, each of which require minutes of processing. 00:09:59.800 --> 00:10:00.300 >> Yeah. 00:10:00.830 --> 00:10:04.630 >> We'll get there to support that load. We want to ramp up... 00:10:04.680 --> 00:10:07.010 >> Let's talk about that because I'm sure people want to get started 00:10:07.060 --> 00:10:11.280 with this. Where do they go and what's the roll out process going 00:10:11.330 --> 00:10:11.670 to be? 00:10:11.720 --> 00:10:17.490 >> Right, so this is Photosynth.Net/preview. 00:10:19.030 --> 00:10:22.140 This is the site, this is our preview site. 00:10:22.690 --> 00:10:25.210 This is the place where you can look at them as I've been showing 00:10:25.260 --> 00:10:28.880 them to you. But you can also press this button create your own. 00:10:29.750 --> 00:10:32.740 I'm already in the preview, so for me it's just going to take 00:10:32.790 --> 00:10:35.880 me directly to where I can upload. 00:10:36.480 --> 00:10:42.330 But if you are not yet a member of preview as you won't be if 00:10:42.380 --> 00:10:46.740 you're just coming the first time. This page you'll see a signup page. 00:10:46.790 --> 00:10:49.160 It just asks you to give us your email; if you give us an email 00:10:49.210 --> 00:10:53.910 address we'll send you an email when we've admitted you to the preview. 00:10:54.260 --> 00:10:57.340 We're doing that on a first come first serve basis. We hope 00:10:57.390 --> 00:11:02.140 if all goes well we hope to give you, be able to admit people 00:11:02.190 --> 00:11:03.410 within a couple of days. 00:11:03.460 --> 00:11:04.220 >> Okay. 00:11:04.270 --> 00:11:06.060 >> We'll see how it goes. It's exciting. 00:11:06.110 --> 00:11:09.110 >> Alright and can we see the difference between the first Photosynth 00:11:09.160 --> 00:11:10.120 and Photosynth 2? 00:11:10.170 --> 00:11:13.860 >> Right, so the Photosynth that we launched 00:11:15.330 --> 00:11:21.040 in 2008. Five years ago was more general in some ways than what 00:11:21.090 --> 00:11:23.790 we're doing here. Because it could take photo from any, you didn't 00:11:23.840 --> 00:11:26.450 have to worry about a shape that you were capturing. 00:11:27.040 --> 00:11:29.680 You could capture different zoom levels. This one by the way 00:11:29.730 --> 00:11:36.670 keep the zoom level at one setting. But here is an interesting case. 00:11:36.720 --> 00:11:43.140 This is, a member of ours went to Florence. This is the old experience. 00:11:43.190 --> 00:11:44.990 This is what Photosynth 1, 00:11:46.250 --> 00:11:49.960 the original Photosynth looked like. Yes you can see the baptistery 00:11:50.010 --> 00:11:53.880 in Florence. You can click on different ones there and you can 00:11:53.930 --> 00:11:59.200 still zoom in. That's great but navigating this experience you 00:11:59.250 --> 00:12:01.920 know it's not as simple an easy as it should be. It's certainly 00:12:01.970 --> 00:12:05.090 not in a world of Touch where you just want stroke something 00:12:05.140 --> 00:12:05.590 and go. 00:12:06.440 --> 00:12:09.500 This is really not the kind of navigational experience you want. 00:12:10.700 --> 00:12:13.980 One of the things we've actually been able to do is reprocess 00:12:14.480 --> 00:12:20.110 some of the original Photosynths into our new format. We haven't 00:12:20.160 --> 00:12:24.410 done a lot of these, but we've done this one, because somebody 00:12:24.460 --> 00:12:27.460 shot all the way around it with the same focal length. They shot 00:12:27.510 --> 00:12:28.500 a lot of images. 00:12:28.960 --> 00:12:34.260 Here this is the reprocessed Synth from the baptistery. 00:12:34.640 --> 00:12:35.270 Look at that. 00:12:35.320 --> 00:12:35.670 >> Wow. 00:12:36.900 --> 00:12:40.680 >> It's spectacular if you've ever been to Florence you know that 00:12:40.730 --> 00:12:45.150 these golden doors here are kind of one of a big tourist highlights. 00:12:45.200 --> 00:12:45.580 >> Yeah. 00:12:45.630 --> 00:12:47.240 >> There's all the resolution there. 00:12:48.290 --> 00:12:51.790 You know I would say I think the viewing experience is just fantastic 00:12:51.840 --> 00:12:52.240 of course. 00:12:52.290 --> 00:12:53.320 >> Yeah so smooth. 00:12:53.370 --> 00:12:56.560 >> We aren't, one of the things we haven't done yet is being able 00:12:56.610 --> 00:12:59.860 to kind of get those details, those zoom-ins. They're not part 00:12:59.910 --> 00:13:02.550 of the new Photosynth yet. We'll get there but we're just you 00:13:02.600 --> 00:13:07.210 know we'll get there over a little period. But we've, we wanted 00:13:07.260 --> 00:13:10.830 to emphasize the simplicity and beauty of the viewing experience. 00:13:10.880 --> 00:13:15.300 I should say to that not only can you see these on our site, 00:13:15.350 --> 00:13:17.790 you can embed these in your own site. 00:13:19.010 --> 00:13:21.930 I don't have a link, I don't have a demo here today. But by 00:13:21.980 --> 00:13:27.270 the time we launch our partner David Breashears who's a world 00:13:27.320 --> 00:13:32.100 famous photographer and a filmmaker, who specializes in the Himalayas. 00:13:32.480 --> 00:13:35.890 He's given us access to all his, to his high altitude imagery 00:13:35.940 --> 00:13:36.800 of Everest. 00:13:38.430 --> 00:13:42.520 We, from our site not only do we have that on our site, but we 00:13:42.570 --> 00:13:45.610 also have a link to his embed of that. He's got that stuff on 00:13:45.660 --> 00:13:48.480 his site as of launch day as well. 00:13:49.040 --> 00:13:54.610 If you think about the idea that you want to make one of these 00:13:54.660 --> 00:13:57.690 new Photosynths, you can put that on your blog. 00:13:58.220 --> 00:13:59.930 You can put that on your website. 00:14:01.000 --> 00:14:06.670 Anything that supports an IFrame can have one of these new Photosynths embedded. 00:14:06.720 --> 00:14:11.790 Of course because all recent web browsers support Web GL, it's 00:14:11.840 --> 00:14:13.710 pretty universally viewable. 00:14:14.120 --> 00:14:17.870 >> If I have old Photosynths that I like and maybe they think 00:14:17.920 --> 00:14:20.470 that these different model times. 00:14:21.250 --> 00:14:23.710 Can I convert my old ones or should I use my old pictures to 00:14:23.760 --> 00:14:24.650 create a new one? 00:14:24.700 --> 00:14:28.430 >> We don't, we're not offering yet an ability to kind of with 00:14:28.480 --> 00:14:30.460 a button convert them in the Cloud. 00:14:31.490 --> 00:14:33.490 You should dig up those old photos. 00:14:33.540 --> 00:14:34.360 >> I have them all. 00:14:34.410 --> 00:14:40.090 >> You should look for the ones that at a constant zoom level, right. 00:14:40.140 --> 00:14:40.200 >> Okay. 00:14:40.250 --> 00:14:44.360 >> Because in the first version we emphasize that you can change 00:14:44.410 --> 00:14:45.640 zoom levels anything like that. 00:14:45.690 --> 00:14:45.750 >> Yeah. 00:14:45.800 --> 00:14:49.370 >> That really, while that was, you can still make one of these 00:14:49.420 --> 00:14:52.250 new Photosynths with different zoom levels they don't look as good. 00:14:52.770 --> 00:14:53.390 >> Okay. 00:14:53.440 --> 00:14:57.190 >> Ideally find ones where you moved either around an object or 00:14:57.240 --> 00:15:03.760 through a path, or you know along a wall, with the same focal 00:15:03.810 --> 00:15:05.840 length or zoom level and then just... 00:15:05.890 --> 00:15:07.790 >> And zoom with your feet not with the lens. 00:15:07.840 --> 00:15:08.380 >> That's right. 00:15:08.430 --> 00:15:08.750 >> Okay. 00:15:08.800 --> 00:15:09.970 >> Get a little exercise. 00:15:10.020 --> 00:15:13.140 >> Alright, so what tips would you have for making the Photosynth 2? 00:15:13.190 --> 00:15:15.500 What things should I consider when I'm taking the shots with 00:15:15.550 --> 00:15:16.390 my camera? 00:15:16.670 --> 00:15:20.580 >> Okay, firstly you should know we've got a great video on our website. 00:15:20.630 --> 00:15:24.120 If you go to the help section of our new preview site you'll 00:15:24.170 --> 00:15:28.050 see a video which kind of skips you through what to do. 00:15:28.100 --> 00:15:31.180 We've also got a shooting guide there. We've also got an FAQ. 00:15:31.230 --> 00:15:34.840 But here are the key things you need to remember. Firstly, like 00:15:34.890 --> 00:15:37.050 I just said, keep a constant zoom level. 00:15:38.340 --> 00:15:43.790 Secondly, overlap your shots a lot so that each point in the 00:15:43.840 --> 00:15:49.030 scene is in at least three successive photos. If I'm walking 00:15:49.080 --> 00:15:52.410 forward you know I take a shot here, click. I take another shot 00:15:52.460 --> 00:15:55.620 here, click. I take another shot here, click. A lot of those 00:15:55.670 --> 00:15:57.890 things, many of the things in distance will be in multiple. 00:15:57.940 --> 00:16:01.130 But the things on the side will be in three in most cases. 00:16:02.170 --> 00:16:04.830 Three view overlap, constant zoom level. 00:16:06.350 --> 00:16:09.400 Those are the two main things. If you're trying to go around 00:16:09.450 --> 00:16:13.880 an object, you should know that if you're going to make a full 00:16:13.930 --> 00:16:19.460 circle you need to take at least 25 photos, 25 to 40 is great. 00:16:19.510 --> 00:16:24.040 Some people take more. I wouldn't go above 100 for a spin around 00:16:24.090 --> 00:16:26.350 an object. Twenty-five to 40 is excellent. 00:16:27.520 --> 00:16:30.590 Same for panoramas, if you want to make one of these parallax 00:16:30.640 --> 00:16:36.110 panoramas that I said, you actually have to be in a rather constrained spot. 00:16:36.160 --> 00:16:38.330 You have to have objects close to you on all sides to be able 00:16:38.380 --> 00:16:42.020 to see that parallax. It may not be appropriate for all environments. 00:16:42.560 --> 00:16:45.080 But in those cases you have to get that three view overlap as 00:16:45.130 --> 00:16:48.150 you're moving around too, which means a hell of a lot of shots. 00:16:48.200 --> 00:16:48.700 >> Yeah. 00:16:49.280 --> 00:16:51.850 >> Take lots of photos. Take the highest resolution you've got 00:16:51.900 --> 00:16:55.120 available to you. I mean you don't have to have DSLR camera. 00:16:55.170 --> 00:16:56.730 You can do this with a mobile phone. 00:16:57.660 --> 00:17:02.200 But the more pixels you upload the more your users will be able 00:17:02.250 --> 00:17:03.850 to kind of see the results. 00:17:04.230 --> 00:17:07.790 >> Great and so Photosynth.Net/preview is where to go to explore 00:17:07.840 --> 00:17:10.940 this on your own, and to get started if you want to start making them. 00:17:10.990 --> 00:17:11.830 >> That's right. 00:17:11.880 --> 00:17:13.860 >> Great, well thanks for talking to us today. 00:17:13.910 --> 00:17:19.090 >> Okay, thank you.