In this episode of Expert to Expert, programming language designer Erik Meijer chats with CCR creator George Chrysanthakopoulos. We've spent a good deal of time on Channel 9 addressing the Concurrency Problem and the various approaches Microsoft is taking in an effort to help solve it. George's CCR is a piece of managed technology (.NET) that provides an unusually high degree of concurrency for developers targeting Windows. The Coordination and Concurrency Runtime has been around for about five years. How are people using it today to build scalable concurrent systems? What's the current state of the CCR and what's it's future? Why is the CCR a better approach to scalable distributed concurrent programming than other technologies out there? Is concurrency the real issue? George believes that it's all about coordination(the other C in CCR) and concurrency is really just a side effect of coordinating systems. If you get distributed coordination right, then you have a concurrent system that can scale. Really? Do explain, dear George (oh, and he does and as passionately as you'd expect from him). This is a fantastic conversation. Classic Channel 9.