.NET with Scott Hunter Part 2

Play .NET with Scott Hunter Part 2

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    Mixfede
    Thanks Robert for these questions! and Scott for your honesty in the answers. Bravo!! .. I hope you can implement a designer for Blazor .. at some point .. it would be great .. and also to generate more competitive advantages between frameworks .. RAD or similar ..

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    Tarek Madwar

    Something extreemly important, You please need to address it.
    It sucks when i as a developer wants to publich and xamarin application into Apple store and to Google store. Too much work to get embedded. Please make this as simple as just putting my Apple Store developer email and password and that is it, same way with google store.

    Something is also extreemly important, it is very bad to update the android and the iphone apps especially with many chnages is happening to the ios and android os. when they are releasing a new os they are NOT concederin a backword compatibility, as a developer i found the only solution is to send the screen design to the mobile app using xml data and then building the screen on the fly, just to go away from the stupid way that OSs are dealing with updates.

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    Tarek Madwar

    Another important point please to conceder,

    Why does a web developer builds an application for Android/IOS ?
    The answer is simple, there are only few things that a native app can do but web app does not allow:
    1- Notifications
    2- Usage of local Hardware (Cam, Mic, Speaker , Storage ...)

    Practically when a developer builds the xamarin app to do the above points, the only one thing shared among enviromets is the screen design, but when we want to make a notification w are forced to make a code inside the native ios project and another code inside android project, Why s that !!!? why is not there any single library that simply allowes me to make a notification !!?
    i am very sure that microsoft can simply do it because both native projects are working on microsoft libraries after all, so why the developer has to go into all of these details just to do a simple thing (make a notification).

    Why a developer has to make an account under some company service to send notifications, why not Ole link direct with native app, what if one of the companies that provides these services ahs decided to stop them !!!

    Why my iphone application can't be directly sent to my clients, why do i have to publish it into Apple store and get their approval, why can't i send the ipa file directly to the hardware, my client does own the hardware he/she purchased and he/she is happy to accept my application, why do i need apple company approval for that, i don't want to participate in (apple store nor in google store) the same way i can send my apk file to android i should do with iphone.

    And by the way apple company does not have the right on the hardware itself after selling it, if they hae rules on thier OS, that does not mean they can controll the hardware that was already been given for a price to client. Microsoft framework should allow me to send my ipa file directly to iphones, and by the way some application already does the ame from small companies.

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    ChrisGuy
    Scott hit the nail on the head, developing for WinForms is the fastest and that is because the designer does the heavy lifting for you.

    What is needed, at a minimum, is a designer that will let me get the structure of the UI done visually and then I can spend some time to tweak it in the code. There is no reason why a designer couldn't use screen fractions instead of pixels for placement or allow the developer to input the screen parameters to see how the different screens will display the layout.

    The key here is that it is an order of magnitude faster to drag/drop/size the UI components visually in a designer to get the foundation done because most people can't visualize the layout in code and then you get in to a cycle of code/compile/run/modify/repeat just to try and get the layout done.

    I'd like to see a UI that looks good on all the different platforms and leveraging the native UI to get the best result is a good idea. We just need a designer to get us going with the big stuff and we'll tweak the details in code outside designer.
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    WPFDev

    OMFG, just shameless, UWP is DEAD, XAMARIN is DEAD, no WP means no need for XAMARIN low quality garbage,
    and now after year after year of flop after flop the this genius has decided to poison the Full Framework by usurping the good name of .Net for Miguels MONO, the worst thing MS has ever done is bring on the talentless XAMARIN group, now Mr Hunter and company have decide to steal the ,Net name for this tar baby, whoich has almost zero adoption, just have a look at the nuget downloads, is a abysmal failure, most people havent noticed the installation of .Net core 2.0 on Windows 10, hey Scotty boy, I triple dog dare you to push the MonoDotnotNet with a Windows update a break Full Framework, this whole thing is a giant lie from the beginning, you said you where open sourcing .Net , that was over 5 years ago,I guess you don't remember hello world hanselmans post on the now gone MSDN site proclaiming, .Net is DEAD long live .Net core, and you also forgot you already release 5.0RC in 2015 https://www.nuget.org/packages/Microsoft.NETCore/ which was really 0.1 pre alpha but got more downloads that the current BS5.0 , have a look at the 3wtech marketshare numbers, core has zero % adoption, yet you hack blather on and on and on, no shame, seen this before and I can't what to hear the excuses, its disvirtuous cycle you caught in no adoption outside of nubiles , so low quality untested code goes uncheck by pros, rinse and repeat and repeat and repeat, this isn't going to end well, a watch the F out if when you break long running enterprise apps when you try to force the issue in November, you really think anyones going to waste money to rewrite ASP in the middle of a depression ? do you not unterstand the stock price is based on the Trump admin stealing trillions from the future to finance it? BTW what happen to HoloLens and quantum AI and all the other garbage back to sleazebag sinoffski days? this is going to end just like all the others except this time you will be damaging Full Framework and there is going to be consequences, Like the trump admin you are an embarrassment of incompetence, shame on you

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